The first with mark of Watson Co., in the Irish pattern, model number A189, no monogram (2 7/8 x 10 1/2 in. diameter); the second with mark of Gorham, very heavy, pattern number 42605, period "T" monogram to well (1 3/4 x 11 3/4 in. diameter).

50.5 total troy oz.

Both with minor scratching commensurate with age and some use.